The Walking Dead Season 6 (Discussion with SPOILERS)

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Just like when a group randomly attacked our main group in the prison. Many of them joined the group and hung around for a few episodes, some still there. You can't have a show were you kill people constantly and not have a way to constantly refill the character list.
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Just like when a group randomly attacked our main group in the prison. Many of them joined the group and hung around for a few episodes, some still there. You can't have a show were you kill people constantly and not have a way to constantly refill the character list.
Originally Posted by Kaens
Exactly. And, sometimes you need to replace important characters that fluidly got killed off differently, earlier, at all in the show than they did in the comics, too. Like Sasha, does not exist in the comics, but, she (so far) seems to partially replace Andrea's role in the comics at this point. And Andrea's TV-character naturally developed differently than her comics self, and now she is dead...
Gotcha ya, I had misread thinking the captives would replenish the Wolves. That is interesting, since maybe half the town has to be dead now. That truck was coming at full speed, just doesn't seem to be the transporting type of vehicle if your going to ram through a barricade, but you might be right there could also be a bunch of Twinkies in there for all we know.
Gotcha ya, I had misread thinking the captives would replenish the Wolves. That is interesting, since maybe half the town has to be dead now. That truck was coming at full speed, just doesn't seem to be the transporting type of vehicle if your going to ram through a barricade, but you might be right there could also be a bunch of Twinkies in there for all we know.
Originally Posted by MarvzMitts
Well, it was going full speed, but controlled, then some douchebag shot the driver up, and it went out of control against the wall. I don't think the intention was ever to ram the semi into anything. I wouldn't say half the town is dead. Maybe a quarter.
Maybe they were going to load up prisoners into the van? I think the intention was definitely to ram the wall, that's why he was coming in so fast and the panic to shoot up the driver. Yes he got the driver, but the truck still breached the wall.
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Well, that was a goddamn mind blowing experience...
Well, that was a goddamn mind blowing experience...
Originally Posted by futiles
Yeah yeah, it was totally awesome!
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And next week is totally going to be a flashback episode. So, it will be 605 before we have any possible closure on Rick. And even then, I wouldn't be surprised for 605 to be a Daryl, Abraham, and Sasha episode, focusing on their mission. With 606 finally getting to Rick. And it being 607 or 608 before we get closure on Glenn.

What are we, 9 episodes per half season? So, Season 6.1 will take place over a single 24 hour cycle? That is going to be amazing.
Why do you think next week is a flashback episode? For which characters? I can see it for Morgan (based on the preview), but unless you saw something I didn't, I don't know why. I agree with your assessment of 605, I just think that will be in 604.

After watching Talking Dead last night my wife thinks that Glenn's closure is going to be that Maggie is pregnant. I believe we already have one baby no one knows what to do with so that is not going to happen. I think the "closure" is they (probably Rick) is going to find Glenn's bag of stuff. They haven't highlighted him using the walkie talkies like that, or brought out his pocket watch. Before he died I called it out when they were running down the street and he had it in his left hand and was struggling to carry it. I said to my wife, "That is not how you carry a backpack, especially when you need both hands to fight for your life. That's important."

Oh and I don't read the comics so I don't know anything about Rick loosing his hand Smile
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Why do you think next week is a flashback episode? For which characters? I can see it for Morgan (based on the preview), but unless you saw something I didn't, I don't know why. I agree with your assessment of 605, I just think that will be in 604.
Originally Posted by Kaens
Because the previews (all of them, the one at the end of the episode, the one during Talking Dead, and the one on AMC.com as soon as 603 ended) only showed Morgan, showing him with a rougher exterior than he currently has, showing him with a gun, not as smooth and fluid on his staff, and had "CLEAR" written in blood on a wall. Also, the tag line used is "You cannot escape your past." This fits very firmly in line with their style the past 5 seasons when they do "one off" episodes, ones that give character backstory or development, to further inform the viewer of the current plot points.

After watching Talking Dead last night my wife thinks that Glenn's closure is going to be that Maggie is pregnant. I believe we already have one baby no one knows what to do with so that is not going to happen. I think the "closure" is they (probably Rick) is going to find Glenn's bag of stuff. They haven't highlighted him using the walkie talkies like that, or brought out his pocket watch. Before he died I called it out when they were running down the street and he had it in his left hand and was struggling to carry it. I said to my wife, "That is not how you carry a backpack, especially when you need both hands to fight for your life. That's important."

Oh and I don't read the comics so I don't know anything about Rick loosing his hand Smile
Originally Posted by Kaens
Well, I base nothing, really, on the comics, because (other than really high level plot points) they do a good job of making it two separate and distinct entities.

Basically, they both start in Atlanta, and go to the farm, then the prison, the Governor and Woodbury messes it all up, but the do meet up with Abraham's group, of course some cannibals need to be put down, but Eugene was lying, but we did still find a nice place called Alexandria, do bad these roaming scavengers had to mess it all up and attract a mega-herd to the place...

The in-between parts, that has a lot of differences. Sometimes things happen similarly, but, the roles change, sometimes, they just do their own thing entirely. Honestly, if they were exactly the same, I would not have watched passed season 2.
Well they definitely need to go through what Morgan has been doing for the first 5 seasons, see how he became what he is today. 604 will probably be heavy in that for sure, but I think we can do more in the episode, especially since it's 90 mins. I say combine your 604 & 605 into 605.

No thoughts on Glenn's bag?

With the exception of video games, I don't like to mix my media. So if there is a book/comic I won't read it if I like the TV/movie. I will view them as completely separate things so I can keep it straight. I started doing this after the very first X-Men movie. After having read literally 1000s of X-men comics (counting cross over stuff, see pic below) the movie obviously took liberties, but I loved it. I made a conscious decision then to never get hung up on it and keep doing that. Games of Thrones, LotR, whatever, same characters, different stories.

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Yeah yeah, it was totally awesome!
Originally Posted by Kaens
I really dislike cheap deaths if that is in fact what transpired. They could of climbed over the piled up garbage to the fire escape. Or pushed the dumpster to the edge of the building to get to the fence and then the roof. They seem to always kill characters that get stronger as the series progresses.

The last significant perfect death that I was ok with was Hershel's death. I didn't care for how, Beth and Tyreese died. Reading the comics over the summer I ended up being ok with their deaths since Beth didn't exist in the Comics and Tyreese doesn't make it out of the prison. So I see why they needed to die before they reached Alexandria.

Out of all the major characters I feared the most for Glen since Kirkman ruined the comic for me by spilling the beans on Glen's death in an interview. So it wasn't a major surprise, but there could be a chance he is alive. Maybe those are Nicolas' guts being torn out and he is on top of Glen. Maybe he can scamper under the dumpster and wait it out, but there isn't much hope.
Last edited 10-26-2015 at 02:39 PM by MarvzMitts.
Well they definitely need to go through what Morgan has been doing for the first 5 seasons, see how he became what he is today. 604 will probably be heavy in that for sure, but I think we can do more in the episode, especially since it's 90 mins. I say combine your 604 & 605 into 605.

No thoughts on Glenn's bag?

With the exception of video games, I don't like to mix my media. So if there is a book/comic I won't read it if I like the TV/movie. I will view them as completely separate things so I can keep it straight. I started doing this after the very first X-Men movie. After having read literally 1000s of X-men comics (counting cross over stuff, see pic below) the movie obviously took liberties, but I loved it. I made a conscious decision then to never get hung up on it and keep doing that. Games of Thrones, LotR, whatever, same characters, different stories.

Originally Posted by Kaens
Well, my thoughts have always been, "if you're a comics fan, then, by definition, you are accepting of a multiple universe equation when it comes to characters and stories. So, the 'video presentation' of your preferred character set is not merely an exact retelling of a specific printed medium, but rather, a wholly distinct telling of similar, yet different, version of events." So, Walking Dead Comics != Walking Dead TV Show. Unless explicitly stated by the creators, two media do not intermingle. (Robert Kirkman has said that TellTale games and TWD Novels are a part of the comics, so, cool, they are. But, that means novels and games are NOT part of the show. Cool, again.)

People get so hung up on that shit. And then get mad when it isn't perfect for them.

I greatly appreciate that Marvel made the Marvel Cinematic Universe a universe designation in its multiverse (whatever is left of that...).

I actually have lots of thoughts on Glenn and his bag. I know what I think they are going to do, and I know what I hope they are going to do, and I know what would truly sadden me if they actually do.

I ended up watching last night's episode twice, and then watched the last 15-20 minutes again. So, I watched from "Thank You" to credits three times. I have also read all the points of view out there, because I find that entertaining.

I think the bag is important, because of the time spent focusing on him getting it ready. Also, the show gave you a very subtle foreshadow of Glenn's events through David. He was alone, he found a group, he found love, he got married, he just needs to get back home to her, he doesn't... (Is that David, or Glenn?)

So, I think he should be dead. I want the show to truly follow through (which it usually does). But, I do see the "evidence" so many people are holding on to, hoping he is not. And I think they have a point, but, I would hate for that to be the way the show goes.
And next week is totally going to be a flashback episode. So, it will be 605 before we have any possible closure on Rick. And even then, I wouldn't be surprised for 605 to be a Daryl, Abraham, and Sasha episode, focusing on their mission. With 606 finally getting to Rick. And it being 607 or 608 before we get closure on Glenn.

What are we, 9 episodes per half season? So, Season 6.1 will take place over a single 24 hour cycle? That is going to be amazing.
Originally Posted by futiles
Ever since Season 3 the seasons are split into 8 episodes for a total of 16 per year.
Why do you think next week is a flashback episode? For which characters? I can see it for Morgan (based on the preview), but unless you saw something I didn't, I don't know why. I agree with your assessment of 605, I just think that will be in 604.

After watching Talking Dead last night my wife thinks that Glenn's closure is going to be that Maggie is pregnant. I believe we already have one baby no one knows what to do with so that is not going to happen. I think the "closure" is they (probably Rick) is going to find Glenn's bag of stuff. They haven't highlighted him using the walkie talkies like that, or brought out his pocket watch. Before he died I called it out when they were running down the street and he had it in his left hand and was struggling to carry it. I said to my wife, "That is not how you carry a backpack, especially when you need both hands to fight for your life. That's important."

Oh and I don't read the comics so I don't know anything about Rick loosing his hand Smile
Originally Posted by Kaens
futiles is correct, the voice over and images suggest it will be a flashback possible showing him becoming the Bo Stick wielding master he has become. He has a fuller fro and seems to be back in the Rick's town clearing and burning bodies. I though a pregnant Maggie could be a possibility. Glen's death would be the a final blow for her. She would need a baby to keep her going now or she might attempt something she did in the comics. Not likely, since it's not in her TV character and other characters have gone that route. There is always something going on with Rick's hand in the show, but I think he keeps it as it is more practical for the show. It has been stated in an interview that it is easy to have a one handed Rick climb on top of a car and shoot his gun in the comic, but harder to execute as live action.
Beth didn't exist in the Comics and Tyreese doesn't make it out of the prison. So I see why they needed to die before they reached Alexandria.
Originally Posted by MarvzMitts
That is very poor logic. Daryl does not exist in the comics. Still alive in Alexandria. Carol died before Tyrese in the prison. Still alive in the TV Show.

Sophia is still alive in the comics.
Andrea is still alive in the comics.

So, the basic hypothesis is false.
Well, my thoughts have always been, "if you're a comics fan, then, by definition, you are accepting of a multiple universe equation when it comes to characters and stories.
Originally Posted by futiles
Exactly!

I think the bag is important, because of the time spent focusing on him getting it ready. Also, the show gave you a very subtle foreshadow of Glenn's events through David. He was alone, he found a group, he found love, he got married, he just needs to get back home to her, he doesn't... (Is that David, or Glenn?)

So, I think he should be dead. I want the show to truly follow through (which it usually does). But, I do see the "evidence" so many people are holding on to, hoping he is not. And I think they have a point, but, I would hate for that to be the way the show goes.
Originally Posted by futiles
Agreed. I don't think he crawled under the dumpster, I think that was the point of the overhead view of the multiple zombies deep in a perfect circle around him. He didn't get out, he's gone! My actual biggest problem was the way the blood splatter came from Glenn's right. First I don't think he should have gotten any on him, but it was a big gun so maybe, but it should have come from the front. And assuming it did, how on earth was a guy that just blew his brains out able to consciously grab Glenn and pull him into the crowd. I agree, it was not the best way for him to go. My wife was screaming about the fire escape and I though they should have jumped the fence on the side that was all bushes. I dunno, but Glenn's dead baby, Glenn's dead.
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That is very poor logic. Daryl does not exist in the comics. Still alive in Alexandria. Carol died before Tyrese in the prison. Still alive in the TV Show.

Sophia is still alive in the comics.
Andrea is still alive in the comics.

So, the basic hypothesis is false.
Originally Posted by futiles
Not at all when I am referring specifically to those two character's death and how cheap they felt. The cast can only be so big and there can only be so many story arcs shown in a 16 episode season. They needed to go to bring on new characters. Again, there is no Beth and Tyreese in Alexandria in the comics so they could be killed in the show before Rick or Carl would ever be. I didn't like their deaths, but reading the comics made it more acceptable because neither would have been in Alexandria anyway. That is my statement, not logic or a hypothesis.

Andrea and Sofia are both dead in the show, so there is no need to discuss them in the context of my statement in the show because they are dead.

Carol is a completely different character in the show then in the comic. Daryl and Sasha both don't exist and I am fine with that. They have no bearing on Beth and Tyreese's deaths. Other then Maggie and Sash both suffering 2 losses last season and being able to help each other through it. That is where the show's writing also helped dealing with the deaths to move the story forward.

If characters need to die they need to go out in a better fashion. Glen was super smart, able to scavenge in a city full of walkers. He has more to live for now that he has Maggie. He can live through 3 walkers pile on top of him with a bullet in his shoulder, but can't deflect 1 falling body on that dumpster? Come on.

This has been the weakest of the 3 episodes so far. I don't hate the show, it is still great. Just do it better then last night's scene.
No. Not every death is a great death. It is important for people to die poorly. A single mistake (trying to save Nicholas from himself) can kill you. So far, Glenn's death will actually be the best one in the show. Until Daryl's.
Agreed. I don't think he crawled under the dumpster, I think that was the point of the overhead view of the multiple zombies deep in a perfect circle around him. He didn't get out, he's gone! My actual biggest problem was the way the blood splatter came from Glenn's right. First I don't think he should have gotten any on him, but it was a big gun so maybe, but it should have come from the front. And assuming it did, how on earth was a guy that just blew his brains out able to consciously grab Glenn and pull him into the crowd. I agree, it was not the best way for him to go. My wife was screaming about the fire escape and I though they should have jumped the fence on the side that was all bushes. I dunno, but Glenn's dead baby, Glenn's dead.
Originally Posted by Kaens
The gun splatter does look odd, but I think it works. They are facing each other fairly close. Nick shoots from his right, blood and guts shoot out of his head causing a spry and mist from his left. Wind or a breeze could partially blow it back to Nick thus landing on the right side of Glen's face.

One inconsistency from last weeks episode was when Rosita and her group brought in the gal that was stabbed. They said to put in an IV, but when she expires it's Eric who has an IV in his arm and removes it as they leave. There must of been more that was filmed since they used that edit.

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