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10-11-2015 09:26 PM StaffPremium
BUUUUUUUURRRRRNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally Posted by porschephiliac
Actually, I think he already knew, but it's more fun our way.
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Week 7 started this morning - it's the first week I am not looking forward to!

Week Seven: October 13th to October 19th
Participation goal: 20 achievements from Kinect required games: +1 point
Bonus goal: Lucky 7's Challenge - play 7 games earning at least 7 achievements in each game, earning a total of 700 gamerscore or more: +2 points
Leader goal: Earn the most gamerscore from Kinect required games in this week: +1 point
No Participation Penalty: -3 points

So, good luck!

I will be tallying the points today for week 6. So far it looks real close between Cris and myself for the leader... and not much else activity Frown

I'll let you know!
Scoreboard For 6th Week:
porschephiliac--- 5 (Leader, Bonus & Participation) (8.11gs/ac)
Preludecris------ 3 (Bonus, & Participation) (8.82gs/ac)
Fshguy----------- 0 (Partial Participation)
B8TINGU---------- -2 (No Participation)
BigNev44--------- -2 (No Participation)
Kaens------------ -2 (No Participation)
MarvzMitts------- -2 (No Participation)

Leaderboard After Week 6:
Preludecris------ 27
porschephiliac--- 26
Fshguy----------- 15
MarvzMitts------- 11
B8TINGU---------- 8
BigNev44--------- 3
Kaens------------ 3

Gamerscore board:
Preludecris------ 2620 (+300)
porschephiliac---1470 (+300)
Fshguy----------- 1355 (+50)
Marvzmitts------- 835 (+0)
B8TINGU---------- 490 (+0)
BigNev44--------- 40 (+0)
Kaens------------ 5 (+0)

Achievement board:
Preludecris------ 139 (+34)
porschephiliac--- 125 (+37)
MarvzMitts------- 77 (+0)
Fshguy----------- 49 (+1)
B8TINGU---------- 15 (+0)
BigNevv44-------- 3 (+0)
Kaens------------ 1 (+0)
Nice tight competition between Cris and I - but I prevailed with the slightly lower gamerscore per achievement average! Only 1 point seperates him from losing his badge this cycle - boy better step up!

Fsh earned 1 achievement allowing for the partial participation 0 pointer. The rest lost more points for lack of participation. 2 members are on the verge of DQ if they fail to produce this week.

Also, this week I will be announcing week nine challenges... (sinister laugh...)
I got 305 gs by the way.... lol
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2 members are on the verge of DQ if they fail to produce this week.
Originally Posted by porschephiliac
What is this about? I never saw anything in the rules say anything about DQ or drops? Can you clarify this please? And who would those members be?
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What is this about? I never saw anything in the rules say anything about DQ or drops? Can you clarify this please? And who would those members be?
Originally Posted by B8TINGU
From the very first post:

Any player who reaches 0 points after enough penalties will be disqualified and no longer tracked.
Originally Posted by porschephiliac
From the very first post:
Originally Posted by futiles
Fair enough, but this was never clearly defined as to how many penalties and will there be warning in public or private?
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Fair enough, but this was never clearly defined as to how many penalties and will there be warning in public or private?
Originally Posted by B8TINGU
I think it is pretty clear:

Any player who reaches 0 points after enough penalties will be disqualified and no longer tracked.
Originally Posted by porschephiliac
Any player that reaches 0 points is out, no matter how many penalties it takes. A week that results in them hitting 0 knocks them out...

No Participation Penalty: -3 points
Originally Posted by porschephiliac
Anyone that does not participate this week loses 3 points.

BigNev44--------- 3
Kaens------------ 3
Originally Posted by porschephiliac
HEY! Two people are at 3 points, if they don't participate, they would lose 3 points, which would put them at 0.



So, that was a public warning, of a stated rule, with a known consequence...
i think what happened is no one really read the rules.... they saw BADGE! ok, I'm in!
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i think what happened is no one really read the rules.... they saw BADGE! ok, I'm in!
Originally Posted by Preludecris
THIS! So many times this! Any contest I ever ran, THIS!!!!
i think what happened is no one really read the rules.... they saw BADGE! ok, I'm in!
Originally Posted by Preludecris
I already have the badge, I just tried to support the contest so YOU could get the badge. I said I wasn't going to participate much, and I don't care if I'm dropped.
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I already have the badge, I just tried to support the contest so YOU could get the badge. I said I wasn't going to participate much, and I don't care if I'm dropped.
Originally Posted by Kaens
I know dude, you posted in the beginning that you weren't exactly trying. I wasn't calling out anyone specifically in my post. it was just a generalization.
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I think it is pretty clear:

Any player that reaches 0 points is out, no matter how many penalties it takes. A week that results in them hitting 0 knocks them out...

Anyone that does not participate this week loses 3 points.

HEY! Two people are at 3 points, if they don't participate, they would lose 3 points, which would put them at 0.



So, that was a public warning, of a stated rule, with a known consequence...
Originally Posted by futiles
I read the rules, granted I did not take the penalties in consideration at the time and I believe the rules were amended at one time. Also granted you are trying to help but that still is not clear defined. Clearly defined is: After said number of non participation points contestants will be dropped from the competition and no longer tracked. I get that I may be cut, I'm not arguing that point at all, my point is to have clearly defined rules set by the contest official originator. What is stated could be after two or four non participation points you can be dropped. I'm just trying to make sure these things are addressed so that if anyone else has a problem or any more iterations of this contest are made then we have our ducks in an order, so to speak. So far this is a great contest and I am/was looking to forward to it and working out all the bugs as we have from the first iteration. This is not me simply whining.
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I read the rules, granted I did not take the penalties in consideration at the time and I believe the rules were amended at one time. Also granted you are trying to help but that still is not clear defined. Clearly defined is: After said number of non participation points contestants will be dropped from the competition and no longer tracked. I get that I may be cut, I'm not arguing that point at all, my point is to have clearly defined rules set by the contest official originator. What is stated could be after two or four non participation points you can be dropped. I'm just trying to make sure these things are addressed so that if anyone else has a problem or any more iterations of this contest are made then we have our ducks in an order, so to speak. So far this is a great contest and I am/was looking to forward to it and working out all the bugs as we have from the first iteration. This is not me simply whining.
Originally Posted by B8TINGU

How could your total cumulative score reaches zero after starting at ten be read as anything other than "your total cumulative score reaches zero after starting at ten?" If someone was at 3 points this week, and the negative for not participating is -3 points, but, partial participation is 0, then even partial participation keeps them in. Completing one of the challenges/requirements raises their score, meaning that unless the penalty for non-participation is equal to or more than their new total score, they would have at least two cycles left in it. Basically, partial participation strings you along. Completing tasks extends your life.

You are at 15 points. How could you possibly be eliminated this week? At worst, WORST, you do absolutely nothing, get -3 points, and end the week at 12 points. Let's see, that still leaves you 2 points ahead of your initial points. And a full 12 ahead of elimination.

IT IS CLEARLY DEFINED. If you hit ZERO you are out. It might take someone 4 penalties. It might take someone 20 penalties. So, it is not number of penalties, because that would be STUPID. "Oh hey preludecris, I know you've been kicking ass and built a huge lead so that you could go on a vacation 10 weeks in, but, your 30 points don't mean anything, you missed a week, so, you're out." That would be horrible.
How could your total cumulative score reaches zero after starting at ten be read as anything other than "your total cumulative score reaches zero after starting at ten?" If someone was at 3 points this week, and the negative for not participating is -3 points, but, partial participation is 0, then even partial participation keeps them in. Completing one of the challenges/requirements raises their score, meaning that unless the penalty for non-participation is equal to or more than their new total score, they would have at least two cycles left in it. Basically, partial participation strings you along. Completing tasks extends your life.

You are at 15 points. How could you possibly be eliminated this week? At worst, WORST, you do absolutely nothing, get -3 points, and end the week at 12 points. Let's see, that still leaves you 2 points ahead of your initial points. And a full 12 ahead of elimination.

IT IS CLEARLY DEFINED. If you hit ZERO you are out. It might take someone 4 penalties. It might take someone 20 penalties. So, it is not number of penalties, because that would be STUPID. "Oh hey preludecris, I know you've been kicking ass and built a huge lead so that you could go on a vacation 10 weeks in, but, your 30 points don't mean anything, you missed a week, so, you're out." That would be horrible.
Originally Posted by futiles
You know something, I concede. I can see your point, maybe I was just not thinking clearly, I'm sorry.. too much on my mind right now I guess, but really no excuse. I just re-read that like 10 times in row and it it just hit me.. my bad. I'm getting caught up in the moment, frustrating really..thank you for sticking with me and getting thru my head without going overboard...lol..
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IT IS CLEARLY DEFINED. If you hit ZERO you are out. It might take someone 4 penalties. It might take someone 20 penalties. So, it is not number of penalties, because that would be STUPID. "Oh hey preludecris, I know you've been kicking ass and built a huge lead so that you could go on a vacation 10 weeks in, but, your 30 points don't mean anything, you missed a week, so, you're out." That would be horrible.
Originally Posted by futiles
When it was defined and people signed up, there was no penalty greater than -1. These goals and penalties have been added as we go, and thus now there are -2 and -3. Had that been there in the beginning, maybe people wouldn't have signed up.
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When it was defined and people signed up, there was no penalty greater than -1. These goals and penalties have been added as we go, and thus now there are -2 and -3. Had that been there in the beginning, maybe people wouldn't have signed up.
Originally Posted by Kaens
I'm not stating whether or not people would or would not have signed up. Merely that it was pretty clear at this point who was or was not in danger of elimination. But, the threshold for elimination (and consequentially, the way to stay in) is clearly in the rules.

Now, some rules may have changed, point structures might have always been secret, since the post has been edited, there is no clear "this was changed, that was not" to see. But, at the time B8TINGU was confounded by elimination, it was clear.

Now, it is also fairly obvious that the ones in danger of elimination don't care, either. (You've said you aren't and have not been since day 1) BigNev does not appear to be following at all. Marvz said he was done.

B8TINGU, Fshguy. Porsche, and Preludecris are following, competing, trying. They likely won't get eliminated. Chances are, Fsh and B8 won't win, as 12+ points seems insurmountable, but, they likely won't be eliminated until they just overall give up. At which point, do they care?
Yeah guys I included that DQ part intentionally. There are folks who signed up and then don't really try. It gets frustrating as both the creator of this 'child' and the stat tracker. When I see enthusiasm spark interest then fade it really jades me. So from now on, guys who sign up will get slowly penalized until removal - they can try again next round. No hard feelings, really. I just want everyone to have as much fun as I am!

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