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Moving on:

Can all agree that the Rams suck and are an offense to everything good in football?
Let's see:

I said the Saints sucked, for a long time.

I said the Raiders suck now.

I said the Raiders had a lot of reasons to look up and be positive about the future.

And in no way is any of that refuted.

So...


(Oh, and not caring about the salary cap means not understanding just how important it is, and what factor it has played for your team.)
Originally Posted by futiles
Not caring about the salary cap, means I don't care about the salary cap. It means I care about the athletic side, players should play for the love of the game and the fun they bring to fans, its complicated and I don't want to go into my politics of this but I has to do with that and how much I think these players make way too much anyway. So its not that I don't understand what it brings (hired mercenaries, lol) but its just that I feel the game should be played for a more pure reason than just money.
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08-20-2014 03:40 PM StaffPremium
Hey, guess what, NFL is starting in a couple weeks, woo hoo!!!
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The only team that sucks more than the Raiders is the Browns! The original Browns team left that god forsaken state of Ohio, dumped the stupid name and are now winners! The city of Cleavland gets an expansion team and still calls them the Browns???? Brown what? they are like poop!.......Only in Ohio!















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Not caring about the salary cap, means I don't care about the salary cap. It means I care about the athletic side, players should play for the love of the game and the fun they bring to fans, its complicated and I don't want to go into my politics of this but I has to do with that and how much I think these players make way too much anyway. So its not that I don't understand what it brings (hired mercenaries, lol) but its just that I feel the game should be played for a more pure reason than just money.
Originally Posted by B8TINGU
If the players make too much, where should the money go, then?

The salary cap is 65% of revenue, as per the CBA. So, at $125M, the revenue per team is about $192M. If each player was paid less (on whatever scale we want to say, $1M instead of $10M, or $5M instead of $10M), where would that excess money go?

$67M goes to the owner, front office, staff, basically anything that isn't players.

It has to go somewhere. I am happy with the players "making too much" as it means the people most in control of affecting the game as well as most liable to receive harm from it, reap the largest (group) benefit.

All dead money in your salary does is prevent your team from keeping the talent it has, as well as keeping them from bringing in better.

And playing for the love of the game or the way it makes the fans feel doesn't exist, because the fans made it not exist. As fans, we caused it, clothing, TV, toys, games, tickets, whatever, we make the salary cap. If we don't spend an average $192M per team, then they don't pay $125M, and the players make less. Of course, with the NFL growing still, and the next TV contracts expecting to be more than the $1B/year per contract it was last time, the cap will keep increasing (even if it has been slower lately).
The only team that sucks more than the Raiders is the Browns! The original Browns team left that god forsaken state of Ohio, dumped the stupid name and are now winners! The city of Cleavland gets an expansion team and still calls them the Browns???? Brown what? they are like poop!.......Only in Ohio!















oh and Go Steelers!!!!
Originally Posted by Sith Rick
If you believe the NFL, the Browns never left. Art Model relinquished his franchise after the 1995 season, and started a brand new expansion organization in Baltimore as the Ravens. He utilized players and staff from his former franchise, but, did not maintain any history (so, players that moved from Cleveland to Baltimore actually are recorded as playing for two franchises, the Cleveland Browns and Baltimore Ravens - this is in contrast to the Houston Oilers/Memphis Oilers/Tennessee Titans, as that is considered one continuous franchise, and players that moved with the team played for ONE team) from the other franchise.

The Cleveland Browns franchise went on hiatus for 3 seasons, to start operations again in 1999. This is the original Browns franchise, and is the team that Jim Brown played for, and has any NFL titles and records dating back to the original founding of the team. (I'm serious here, this is really the agreement made!!!)

So, the Ravens are one of the fastest teams to win a Super Bowl, doing so in their 5th year of operation.

This is information I was able to use with a coworker from Cleveland that was a lifelong Browns fan.
And playing for the love of the game or the way it makes the fans feel doesn't exist, because the fans made it not exist. As fans, we caused it, clothing, TV, toys, games, tickets, whatever, we make the salary cap. If we don't spend an average $192M per team, then they don't pay $125M, and the players make less. Of course, with the NFL growing still, and the next TV contracts expecting to be more than the $1B/year per contract it was last time, the cap will keep increasing (even if it has been slower lately).
Originally Posted by futiles
I believe the cap numbers you quote are based solely on the TV deals, all merchandising/ticket sales goes to the team owners and is not part of the cap numbers.
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I believe the cap numbers you quote are based solely on the TV deals, all merchandising/ticket sales goes to the team owners and is not part of the cap numbers.
Originally Posted by Kaens
Merchandising is split. The NFL has a group contract, previously with Reebok, now with Nike, and that is divided across the teams. So, if you buy an "Official NFL" merchandise item, no matter what team, the purchase is split across the 33 entities (32 teams and NFL offices). There are a few other smaller things, but, the Cap is purely on group moneys.

Now, stadium deals, parking, local sponsorships, naming rights, luxury boxes, etc, are all above the group moneys, stay with the individual franchise, and do not factor into the cap (so, owner money to spend on additional front office, staff, facilities, coaching, etc - or, keep...)
How about a good NFL related story instead of the typical crap surrounding douchebags like Ray Rice.



BALTIMORE —On the field, their ex-teams are huge NFL rivals. Off the field, brothers Ma'ake Kemoeatu, an ex-Baltimore Raven, and Chris Kemoeatu, an ex-Pittsburgh Steeler, are closer than close. When Chris' pro football career was cut short because he needed a kidney transplant, his older brother, whose organ was good match, quit the Ravens and donated his kidney to his 31-year-old brother.

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University of Maryland Medical Center transplant surgeon Dr. Stephen Bartlett said Wednesday that the surgery done Aug. 27 was a great success, and both brothers are on their way to recovery.

"He couldn't play anymore, and I didn't want to be in a position where he couldn't play but I'd keep playing," the 35-year-old former Ravens nose tackle said. "As soon as my brother's health was at risk I wanted to stop everything."

The procedure itself was daunting for the University of Maryland medical staff, as what was an asset on the football field proved to be an obstacle on the operating table.

"When I first met Chris, I said, '385 pounds is a new record,'" Bartlett said. And he said Ma'ake's kidney was one-and-a-half times the size of a normal one. The Ravens listed Ma'ake's weight at 345 pounds when he last played for the team.

"Man, when that thing came out I felt like somebody threw me a small football," he said.

The former Raven said that when the family found out that his brother, who had been suffering from kidney problems since the eighth grade, would need a transplant, he immediately volunteered, quitting the Ravens in 2012.

"I'm the oldest of the seven kids, and it's my responsibility to take care of my younger brothers and sisters," Ma'ake said. "If my younger siblings need blood, it'll be my blood. If they need a kidney, it'll have to be my kidney."

The brothers began preparing for the surgery a year and a half ago. But when the time came, the ex-Steeler called his brother with surprising news: He first needed a coronary bypass. Ma'ake said he comforted his brother in the only way he knew how: with football analogies.

"I knew in my mind that he's fighting a kidney and now he has to have heart surgery," Ma'ake said. "I said to him, it's going to be OK. I talked to him in football aspects. I said, 'all right, we're not going to get this in the first down, but we're fourth and long right now and we have to go deep. We'll make it through the first down_the heart surgery_to the end zone: the kidney transplant."

Chris Kemoeatu called the transplant a "humbling" experience.

"It definitely brought us closer as brothers," offensive lineman of seven seasons said.

The brothers said after they fully recover- which usually takes roughly six weeks- they hope to return to their native Hawaii. Neither brother has any concrete plans to return to football, though both said they received plenty of moral support from their respective teammates in Pittsburgh and Baltimore.

The teams are both in the NFL's AFC North Division, and play each other twice during the regular football season.

"Those guys are always asking me, 'did you do the transplant? Did you do the transplant?' The Ravens have always been a big support," Ma'ake said. "I haven't gotten anything from the Steelers yet, but I'm waiting for them to send me something."



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09-18-2014 09:06 AM StaffPremium
That's pretty awesome...
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Originally Posted by SG Steelhead
That! And we finally won a game!

Good week for the Saints.
ok so the Lions might be slightly better than mediocre this year, but I refuse to fully get on the band wagon till they win a playoff game!
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09-28-2014 04:46 PM StaffPremium
Dolphins win! Buccaneers win... I know there's a few of you out there, can you explain the Steelers?
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Ugh, Ugly loss for the Raiders.. and in England...grrrr... This makes me mad and sad.. but mainly mad..
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The Lions go to London and play the Falcons without Calvin Johnson, Reggie Bush and all 3 starting tight ends and win!!! How is this even possible? What will this team be like when they come back after the bye week? Tougher schedule, but I like their chances this year. I would love to go to the last game in Green Bay, experiencing the frozen tundra is always been something ive wanted to do. And to have it matter would be epic!
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10-27-2014 11:43 AM StaffPremium
The Lions go to London and play the Falcons without Calvin Johnson, Reggie Bush and all 3 starting tight ends and win!!! How is this even possible? What will this team be like when they come back after the bye week? Tougher schedule, but I like their chances this year. I would love to go to the last game in Green Bay, experiencing the frozen tundra is always been something ive wanted to do. And to have it matter would be epic!
Originally Posted by Sith Rick
Despite having some talent, Atlanta is bad this year. They beat the Saints and the Bucs... The Lions are a lot better this year, so I think they'll be pretty good after they get those other players back.
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Already have tickets in hand for this Saturday's playoff game vs Baltimore! Should be an awesome hard-hitting game. Really looking forward to it.
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